Wednesday’s Parent: 7 great ways to use college ranking lists

Rank college ranking lists. Photo by Wendy David-Gaines

Rank college ranking lists. Photo by Wendy David-Gaines

“Ranking colleges has become a cottage industry with a proliferation of different criteria yielding different college ranking lists. There are plenty of proponents and critics but ultimately the college-bound, stranded in a sea of mixed reviews, must fend for themselves.”

I wrote this back in January of 2012. The controversy over the use and reliability of college ranking lists continues because of the varying criteria the makers use and the mix of fact and opinion. The fact that there are college ranking lists based on the academic to the absurd, from the best in the world universities to the most clean-shaven campuses, adds to the confusion. But there are ways to salvage some useful info to help the college-bound.

I still believe the best list is the one students and parents create but sometimes I catch myself rubbernecking like a driver on a highway. Curiosity takes over and I take a peek. Since many parents and students will, like me, be looking anyway, I’m listing these seven pros for using college ranking lists.

  1. College ranking lists are fun to read and interesting conversation starters between parents and students.
  2. College ranking lists may include important statistics like graduation rate, freshman retention rate, and alumni donations. They may also include important facts about the college selectivity level via current student prior test scores and class standing.
  3. College ranking lists may include schools families have not yet thought about but are worth considering.
  4. College ranking lists show how schools are portrayed and measured up by the list sponsor according to their criteria. If they give great weight to a factor students care about, the school may be worth looking into.
  5. College ranking lists often emphasize brand names and popular colleges which can inspire a search for lesser known or lower rated but better fit schools. These may offer greater chances for admission and more financial aid because they receive much fewer applications.
  6. College ranking lists can serve as tools to hone student critical thinking skills to separate perception from reality.
  7. College ranking lists can be a blueprint for students to create their own personal college ranking list.

Read Suzanne’s post5 Reasons You Should Not Rely on College Ranking Lists

READ MORE: 

4 steps to create a personal college ranking list

The right college fit test

Wednesday’s Parent: The prime relationship between college list and college fit

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Wednesday’s child may be full of woe but Wednesday’s Parent can substitute action for anxiety. Each Wednesday Suzanne Shaffer and I will provide parent tips to get and keep your student on the college track. It’s never too late or too early to start!

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Wednesday’s Parent: Hunting and gathering a college list Part 2

Creating a college list. Photo by Wendy David-Gaines

Creating a college list. Photo by Wendy David-Gaines

A lot is riding on making a good college list. Your student will be applying to the schools on the final list so they better offer the best chance for student success. It’s so important that Suzanne and I are giving our tips in two parts. Last week’s Part 1 was about general criteria and today’s Part 2 is about refining the list.

Thinking of the college list process as that of gathering and hunting means discovering how well suited each college is to the student and determining where he is most likely to thrive. From over 4,000 schools, many may be ruled out by location, school requirements and college stats. The next step is to find those eight institutions of higher learning most likely leading to student success. These are the ones the student will apply to and be happy to attend.

The definition of student success varies with each student. The key is what each school will do to keep the student on track to graduate and obtain the academic/extracurricular experiences she desires. They should include:

  • set time to graduate
  • short term goals
  • long term goals

Could there be more or less than eight final schools on the list? Yes, but be mindful there are hefty application fees that do not go towards paying the college tuition bill. There should be enough schools to provide the student with options. Once those admission offers are extended, he will be reevaluating based on his own student growth and the college’s financial aid awards.

Here are five ways parents may help their child find their college matches:

  1. Visit A visit to a college campus accomplishes two major things. It judges the fit of a good on paper school and provides that intangible and very personal sixth sense gut reaction of yea or nay. (Warning – parents may have a totally opposite gut reaction.) Parents may help their students with a “collegecation.”
  2. Categorize Parents may help their students organize their college list. Counselors often advise placing schools into three groups: safety, target and reach. These categories are based on school requirements and student credentials to determine likelihood of admission. By going further, students will focus on nuances to pick a school based on its own unique flavor.
  3. Connect Social media provides a multitude of ways for students and parents to learn more (pros and cons) about the college, other prospective students, current students, alumni, and professors. For parents, many schools have social media and website information devoted to parents and families as well as a parent association. Sometimes parents of college students serve as college promoters so it is helpful to consider the source of all info.
  4. Rank The amount of information acquired from college research is staggering. Parents may help their students create spread sheets to organize the info according to what is most important to their child. This is about creating a personal college rating system based on pros and cons for your student to attend.
  5. Support The parent role here is to support your child because if she is not vested in the college experience, she won’t do her best. This may lead to a waste of time, money and energy. Listen more than speak to encourage your student to analyze the facts, understand his emotions, and make good decisions.

Read Suzannes’s blog Finding the Best Fits–A College List Part 2

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Wednesday’s child may be full of woe but Wednesday’s Parent can substitute action for anxiety. Each Wednesday Suzanne Shaffer and I will provide parent tips to get and keep your student on the college track. It’s never too late or too early to start!

Wednesday’s Parent will give twice the info and double the blog posts on critical parenting issues by clicking on the link at the end of the article from www.pocsmom.com to http://www.parentscountdowntocollegecoach.com/ and vice versa.

The truth behind college ranking lists

Cliché: Pull rank.    
POCS Reality: Pick a criteria, there’s probably a college ranking for that.

 

Ranking colleges has become a cottage industry with a proliferation of different criteria yielding different college ranking lists. There are plenty of proponents and critics but ultimately the college-bound, stranded in a sea of mixed reviews, must fend for themselves.

You can find college ranking lists based on the academic to the absurd. From the best in the world universities to the most clean-shaven campuses.

How do counseling professionals and colleges feel about all this?

Counseling professionals disagree with the ranking systems according to a recent survey.

Colleges are split on the issue wanting positive publicity and bragging rights unless the ranking generates a negative buzz. According to a Washington Post Local article,

One of the best-known lists is the U.S. News and World Report ranking of top schools, which has a a complex methodology that takes 2,250 words to explain. Many university presidents slam U.S. News for measuring the wrong things — while quietly taking steps to help their schools climb higher.

Some colleges took an additional step, according to another Washington Post Local article, and took this pledge:

Not to mention U.S. News or similar rankings in any of our new publications, since such lists mislead the public into thinking that the complexities of American higher education can be reduced to one number.’

Read more about making your own College Rankings.

POCSmom’s College Prep DIY Insight: When reading college ranking lists, consider the source and method used, and separate fact from opinion. Then write your own successful college ranking list based on the programs, activities and location you want.

*POCSmom’s DIY Insight: Global College Ranking List

Cliché: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.    
POCS Reality: There are dozens of college ranking lists but your own one is the most important for you.      

 

This college ranking list is not out of this world but it comes close- it’s out of the country. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development compares higher education degree completion by 25-34 year-olds around the world and found the U.S. has slipped to #16 out of 37 developed nations:

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/32/42/48666179.xls  

To read for it yourself, select your country and the source of comparison, then choose “Comparative” at the bottom.

Why has slippage occurred?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/us-falls-in-global-ranking-of-young-adults-who-finish-college/2011/08/22/gIQAAsU3OK_story.html :

“The stagnant U.S.performance on this key international benchmark reflects at least two trends: the rapid expansion of college attendance in Asia and Europe, and the continuing emphasis on four-year degrees in the United States while other nations focus far more on one- and two-year professional credentials.”

College Prep Expert Suzanne Shaffer puts the domestic ranking craze into perspective with a U.S.-China infographic comparison created by OnlineUniversityRankings.com:

http://networkedblogs.com/n9FRm

While U.S.student degree attainment may have dropped, U.S.universities continue to rank high as some of the world’s best schools (find the list under Comments):

http://s323096433.onlinehome.us/2011/08/22/pocsmom%e2%80%99s-insight-7-college-rankings-lists/

POCSmom’s DIY Insight: Ranking? Enough already. The most important ranking list is your own college list.

*POCS: Parent Of a College Student

*POCSmom’s Insight: 7 College Rankings Lists

Cliché: Rise from the ranks.  
POCS Reality: When reading college ranking lists, consider the source and method used, and separate fact from opinion. Then write your own successful college list.

 

The lists are coming, the lists are coming! The college ranking lists, that is. So many lists; so many different rankings.

Q: So which is the best college?

A: The affordable one that has the programs, activities, and location that provides the student the best foundation for a successful life and career.

In other words, have fun reading the lists. Consider the source and ranking method used, pull the facts from opinions, and make your own college ranking list. This will form the basis of your final college list of schools that you will apply to for admission.

For 2012, here are 7 college ranking lists. I didn’t rank the rankers so go to these sites in whatever order you choose:

25 Coolest College Labs (neatorama.com) This is a link to the link but the image of an up close and personal study of a Hawaiian volcano makes it worth the stopover (image #21 on the actual list): http://www.neatorama.com/2011/08/20/the-25-coolest-college-labs/

And this is the link to the actual list of the 25 Coolest College Labs with more images from spaceships to deep sea exploration, from collecting microbes on cave rocks to running pyrotechnics at rock concerts: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-08/you-call-college

America’s coolest (greenest) schools (Sierra Magazine) http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201109/coolschools/all-schools.aspx

Colleges That Help Grads Get Top Salaries (SmartMoneyhttp://www.smartmoney.com/borrow/student-loans/which-colleges-help-their-grads-get-top-salaries-1312402692380/

Top Party Schools (Playboy) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/14/top-party-schools-playboy_n_849215.html#s264482&title=University_of_Colorado

Best Colleges (U.S. News & World Reports) http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2011/08/04/new-best-colleges-rankings-are-coming-soon

The Best 376 Colleges (The Princeton Reviewhttp://www.princetonreview.com/rankingsbest.aspx

America’s Top Colleges (Forbes) http://www.forbes.com/colleges/williams-college/

Here are some things to consider when evaluating the lists:

Critique about rankings (NACAChttp://www.nacacnet.org/AboutNACAC/Governance/Comm/Documents/USNewRankingsReport.pdf

Here is a family perspective after doing your research and culling the facts from opinions:

POCSmom’s Insight: YouTube Video POCSmom’s College List and the College Location POCSmom Factor

http://www.youtube.com/user/pocsmom?feature=mhum#p/a/u/2/k-3NLWq1FHY

Do you have a list to add that you found helpful?

*POCS: Parent Of a College Student